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	<description>Authored by Scott Hemmeter of Arrowpointe Corp, this blog is written from the perspective of a Salesforce.com solution provider and contains information on Arrowpointe's AppExchange products as well as tips, findings, sample code, functionality wishes, etc.</description>
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		<title>By: El Barto</title>
		<link>http://sfdc.arrowpointe.com/2006/05/25/oem-edition/#comment-770</link>
		<dc:creator>El Barto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2006 06:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question re: partners with Appexchange apps that use salesforce custom objects. How do users of their app upgrade to new versions of their app?

(ie Rally has an integrated app...if I use the v1.0 that is listed on the appx today, and then Rallyv2.0 is released on the appx...how do I migrate to it? is v2.0 smart enough to realize that i already have a custom object X in v1.0, and so i don't need v2.0's custom object X? maybe i'm missing something obvious here...like maybe i can change the label of custom object X in v2.0 to X_2?? hmmm)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question re: partners with Appexchange apps that use salesforce custom objects. How do users of their app upgrade to new versions of their app?</p>
<p>(ie Rally has an integrated app&#8230;if I use the v1.0 that is listed on the appx today, and then Rallyv2.0 is released on the appx&#8230;how do I migrate to it? is v2.0 smart enough to realize that i already have a custom object X in v1.0, and so i don&#8217;t need v2.0&#8217;s custom object X? maybe i&#8217;m missing something obvious here&#8230;like maybe i can change the label of custom object X in v2.0 to X_2?? hmmm)</p>
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		<title>By: Peder Jakobsen</title>
		<link>http://sfdc.arrowpointe.com/2006/05/25/oem-edition/#comment-637</link>
		<dc:creator>Peder Jakobsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 00:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Scott,

Yes, that is very helpful.  Thankyou for your quick responses.  I'll be sure to alert you if I actually get something out of the alpha stage.

Peder :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Scott,</p>
<p>Yes, that is very helpful.  Thankyou for your quick responses.  I&#8217;ll be sure to alert you if I actually get something out of the alpha stage.</p>
<p>Peder <img src='http://sfdc.arrowpointe.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Hemmeter</title>
		<link>http://sfdc.arrowpointe.com/2006/05/25/oem-edition/#comment-633</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Hemmeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 21:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peder - what i meant by Ã¢â‚¬Å“That is the location you would want your applications to reside so they are available to othersÃ¢â‚¬Â is that the AppExchange is where many Salesforce.com customers will go to download applications.  Using the AppExchange is more for marketing in your case.  It would be one of many ways for people to find out about your product.

If you have a standalone app that you are trying to sell, Salesforce does not currently have a way to charge the customers for you.  You need to sell to them directly.  Check out &lt;a href="http://www.invisiblecrm.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;Invisible CRM&lt;/a&gt;.  That is a good example of a company that has built some stand-alone applications that integrate with Salesforce.  They market themselves in a number of ways, but they also have listings on &lt;a href="http://search.salesforce.com/search/?sp-k=AppExchangeApps&#038;sp-q=invisiblecrm&#038;x=0&#038;y=0&#038;sp-a=sp10025ad5&#038;sp-p=all&#038;sp-f=ISO-8859-1&#038;sp-w=exact&#038;sp-t=appex_search.tpl" rel="nofollow"&gt;AppExchange&lt;/a&gt;.  Their &lt;a href="http://www.salesforce.com/appexchange/detail_overview.jsp?id=a0330000000nsOuAAI" rel="nofollow"&gt;Sales Alerts&lt;/a&gt; product is a similar idea to what you are doing.

For your case, think of AppExchange as more of a marketing tool.  On your listing, you might have a &lt;strong&gt;Download&lt;/strong&gt;  button.  This button would take a user to a landing page on your own website.

I hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peder - what i meant by Ã¢â‚¬Å“That is the location you would want your applications to reside so they are available to othersÃ¢â‚¬Â is that the AppExchange is where many Salesforce.com customers will go to download applications.  Using the AppExchange is more for marketing in your case.  It would be one of many ways for people to find out about your product.</p>
<p>If you have a standalone app that you are trying to sell, Salesforce does not currently have a way to charge the customers for you.  You need to sell to them directly.  Check out <a href="http://www.invisiblecrm.com" rel="nofollow">Invisible CRM</a>.  That is a good example of a company that has built some stand-alone applications that integrate with Salesforce.  They market themselves in a number of ways, but they also have listings on <a href="http://search.salesforce.com/search/?sp-k=AppExchangeApps&#038;sp-q=invisiblecrm&#038;x=0&#038;y=0&#038;sp-a=sp10025ad5&#038;sp-p=all&#038;sp-f=ISO-8859-1&#038;sp-w=exact&#038;sp-t=appex_search.tpl" rel="nofollow">AppExchange</a>.  Their <a href="http://www.salesforce.com/appexchange/detail_overview.jsp?id=a0330000000nsOuAAI" rel="nofollow">Sales Alerts</a> product is a similar idea to what you are doing.</p>
<p>For your case, think of AppExchange as more of a marketing tool.  On your listing, you might have a <strong>Download</strong>  button.  This button would take a user to a landing page on your own website.</p>
<p>I hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Peder Jakobsen</title>
		<link>http://sfdc.arrowpointe.com/2006/05/25/oem-edition/#comment-631</link>
		<dc:creator>Peder Jakobsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 20:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Scott,

I'm a bit confused.  If I build a application in C++ that is designed to sit in the Windows tray and alert users of events by communicating with the Salesforce backend using SOAP, then what do you mean by.. "That is the location you would want your applications to reside so they are available to others".

I did check out AppExchange for building apps but it's not really applicable to the stuff I've built because they are not web applications, but standalone apps that use the Salesforce enterprise and partner  WSDLs.

Damn, it's tough being a Salesforce newbie.  So much information, so little time! 

Thanks, Peder  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Scott,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a bit confused.  If I build a application in C++ that is designed to sit in the Windows tray and alert users of events by communicating with the Salesforce backend using SOAP, then what do you mean by.. &#8220;That is the location you would want your applications to reside so they are available to others&#8221;.</p>
<p>I did check out AppExchange for building apps but it&#8217;s not really applicable to the stuff I&#8217;ve built because they are not web applications, but standalone apps that use the Salesforce enterprise and partner  WSDLs.</p>
<p>Damn, it&#8217;s tough being a Salesforce newbie.  So much information, so little time! </p>
<p>Thanks, Peder  <img src='http://sfdc.arrowpointe.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Hemmeter</title>
		<link>http://sfdc.arrowpointe.com/2006/05/25/oem-edition/#comment-611</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Hemmeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 14:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter - I suggest you check out &lt;a href="http://www.appexchange.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;AppExchange&lt;/a&gt;.  That is the location you would want your applications to reside so they are available to others.

At this time, you have to charge the customers yourself.  Salesforce will not do that for you.  This means you should have a means to control "activation" of your product.  If you simply created an app using standard Salesforce objects, then anyone downloading it will have your configuration and you cannot chase them down.  If your config is having Salesforce communicate with your own servers, then you can manage this.

OEM edition is just a way for you to sell your app to those not on the platform already.  I assume you would like existing Salesforce users to use your app?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter - I suggest you check out <a href="http://www.appexchange.com" rel="nofollow">AppExchange</a>.  That is the location you would want your applications to reside so they are available to others.</p>
<p>At this time, you have to charge the customers yourself.  Salesforce will not do that for you.  This means you should have a means to control &#8220;activation&#8221; of your product.  If you simply created an app using standard Salesforce objects, then anyone downloading it will have your configuration and you cannot chase them down.  If your config is having Salesforce communicate with your own servers, then you can manage this.</p>
<p>OEM edition is just a way for you to sell your app to those not on the platform already.  I assume you would like existing Salesforce users to use your app?</p>
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		<title>By: Peder Jakobsen</title>
		<link>http://sfdc.arrowpointe.com/2006/05/25/oem-edition/#comment-610</link>
		<dc:creator>Peder Jakobsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 14:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never took the time to explore AppExchange, not even sure what it is, but I recently built a couple of standalone applications in my spare time using the enterprise and partner wsdl.  Does Salesforce provide a way for me to sell these applications?  Or do they only support marketing of these apps that live inside salesforce.com (AppExcange).

Perhaps the OEM version will address my needs...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never took the time to explore AppExchange, not even sure what it is, but I recently built a couple of standalone applications in my spare time using the enterprise and partner wsdl.  Does Salesforce provide a way for me to sell these applications?  Or do they only support marketing of these apps that live inside salesforce.com (AppExcange).</p>
<p>Perhaps the OEM version will address my needs&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: David Claiborne</title>
		<link>http://sfdc.arrowpointe.com/2006/05/25/oem-edition/#comment-537</link>
		<dc:creator>David Claiborne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2006 22:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Details on the OEM edition are a bit scarce at the moment. Questions like "How do I sign up?", "What is the certification cost?" (BTW, it costs $5,000 to get an AppExchange certified). 

The OEM edition does include 5 standard tabs. I think they are Home, Leads, Accounts, Contacts, and Reports, but Opportunities may be there instead of Leads. 

There are four companies with OEM products. I tried to visit each of these booths during the AppExchange Day, but the companies seemed to be spending time with press and other analysts and were not on the floor.

If you want to check out what the four are doing, try these links -

http://www.myloanbiz.com - loan officer

http://www.remend.com - real estate REO agent

http://www.dreamfactory.com (they have lots of products, I am not sure which one is the OEM one)

http://www.rallydev.com - agile software development management</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Details on the OEM edition are a bit scarce at the moment. Questions like &#8220;How do I sign up?&#8221;, &#8220;What is the certification cost?&#8221; (BTW, it costs $5,000 to get an AppExchange certified). </p>
<p>The OEM edition does include 5 standard tabs. I think they are Home, Leads, Accounts, Contacts, and Reports, but Opportunities may be there instead of Leads. </p>
<p>There are four companies with OEM products. I tried to visit each of these booths during the AppExchange Day, but the companies seemed to be spending time with press and other analysts and were not on the floor.</p>
<p>If you want to check out what the four are doing, try these links -</p>
<p><a href="http://www.myloanbiz.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.myloanbiz.com</a> - loan officer</p>
<p><a href="http://www.remend.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.remend.com</a> - real estate REO agent</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dreamfactory.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.dreamfactory.com</a> (they have lots of products, I am not sure which one is the OEM one)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rallydev.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.rallydev.com</a> - agile software development management</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Wood</title>
		<link>http://sfdc.arrowpointe.com/2006/05/25/oem-edition/#comment-527</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2006 14:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's unclear to me what happens when a customer who subscibes to Application A that includes the OEM Edition then wants to subscribe to Application B, which also includes the OEM edition. Do both apps vendors have ot pay the $25/mo? Do the apps have access to each other's data? Do I have to ask my customers if they already have an AppEchange OEM Edition account, and if so can I just charge them for my app and not the platform too?

The answers to all of these questions would be a lot more obvious with your suggested Platform Edition. The OEM Edition seems a little like stuffing all of Windows into your word processor, and into your spreadsheet, and into your email program. I'm not sure I get it. 

Then again, maybe we should just OEM the OEM Edition, repackage it, charge $30/month for it, and call it Platform Edition. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s unclear to me what happens when a customer who subscibes to Application A that includes the OEM Edition then wants to subscribe to Application B, which also includes the OEM edition. Do both apps vendors have ot pay the $25/mo? Do the apps have access to each other&#8217;s data? Do I have to ask my customers if they already have an AppEchange OEM Edition account, and if so can I just charge them for my app and not the platform too?</p>
<p>The answers to all of these questions would be a lot more obvious with your suggested Platform Edition. The OEM Edition seems a little like stuffing all of Windows into your word processor, and into your spreadsheet, and into your email program. I&#8217;m not sure I get it. </p>
<p>Then again, maybe we should just OEM the OEM Edition, repackage it, charge $30/month for it, and call it Platform Edition. <img src='http://sfdc.arrowpointe.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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